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Sunday, November 23, 2014

Lucifer appearing as an Angel of Light: Bitter Fountains Tasting Sweet

October 14, 2009 by Anonymous  
Filed under All Articles, Blessings or Manifesting LOA

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We are told even Lucifer can appear as an angel of light, so why not his “fountains”?

Lucifer can appear as an angel of light.
2 CORINTHIANS 11:14-15
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

2 Nephi 9:9

9 And our spirits must have become like unto him, and we become devils, angels to a devil, to be shut out from the presence of our God, and to remain with the father of lies, in misery, like unto himself; yea, to that being who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself nigh unto an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combination of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness.

For Lucifer or any of his followers to transform themselves to appear as angels of light they must use truth mixed with falsehoods. The greatest lie is truth that is twisted. So yes much of what they may say “appears good” yet is truly evil at its core.

Therefore we are not to drink of a bitter fountain even if it looks like good water for it is still bitter. Sometimes poison looks good, smells good and may even taste good. Its bitterness lies in its power to inflict illness or death. The Lord is trying to warn us that things are black or white. That you cannot get truth from the devil. You can only get truth from the Lord and He explains how to tell the difference in Moroni 7. Many will say “but I have gained truth from this or that book” agreeing that it was mixed with lies too. But the excitement over a few truths we “think” we recognize as matching teachings of the Church does not redeem the book or give us reason to read books like it in order to find tidbits of truth here and there. For the book is a bitter fountain once it has broken one of the three keys to tell wither or not it is of God or not.

If the “truths” do not invite and entice…

  1. to do good continually
  2. to believe in Christ
  3. to serve God

…then we can know with assurance just as daylight is from dark night they are not from God.

All three must be present for it to be a good fountian. If one is missing it then becomes a bitter fountain. The other key is Christ’s example when He said “Father Thy will be done and the glory be Thine forever”. If anything does not encourage submission to Father’s will it is not of God, but of Lucifer for wanted his will not Father’s.

What is even scarier is that the same person will look at this book that holds lies and say they have found new truths that give them greater understandings of the Gospel. Yet again these books have already shown themselves to be not of God. So to gain a piece of knowledge that we think is truth from a book of lies is a dangerous thing. For we are all human and at one time or another grasped onto something that “seemed” to be truth for it was pleasing to us or you could say the natural men in us recognized truth in it and were mislead. This is the way Lucifer tricks us. He makes something look so good and right but it is just a little twisted or only 99% truth, therefore a lie. The danger in experimenting with our abilities to discern good from evil is that having abandoned the keys that the Lord gave us is we are left with our own logic. We may have the Holy Ghost with us much of the time, but when we go opposite to Father’s direction the Spirit can leave us. So if we choose to abandon the counsel of Father we put ourselves in great jeopardy of being beguiled.

Elder James E. Faust
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

“‘The Great Imitator’,” Ensign, Nov 1987, 33

Who has not heard and felt the enticings of the devil? His voice often sounds so reasonable and his message so easy to justify. It is an enticing, intriguing voice with dulcet tones. It is neither hard nor discordant. No one would listen to Satan’s voice if it sounded harsh or mean. If the devil’s voice were unpleasant, it would not entice people to listen to it.

Shakespeare wrote, “The prince of darkness is a gentleman” (King Lear, act 3, sc. 4, line 143), and “the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose” (The Merchant of Venice, act 1, sc. 3, line 95). As the great deceiver, Lucifer has marvelous powers of deception. As Paul said to the Corinthians, “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” (2 Cor. 11:14; see also 2 Ne. 9:9).

We all have an inner braking system that will stop us before we follow Satan too far down the wrong road. It is the still, small voice which is within us. But once we have succumbed, the braking system begins to leak brake fluid and our stopping mechanism becomes weak and ineffective.”

Some of Satan’s most appealing lines are “Everyone does it”; “If it doesn’t hurt anybody else, it’s all right”; “If you feel all right about it, it’s OK”; or “It’s the ‘in’ thing to do.” These subtle entreaties make Satan the great imitator, the master deceiver, the arch counterfeiter, and the great forger.

Nephi has given to us the pattern or formula by which Satan operates:

“And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is well—and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.

“And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none—and thus he whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from whence there is no deliverance” (2 Ne. 28:21–22).

The First Presidency described Satan: “He is working under such perfect disguise that many do not recognize either him or his methods. There is no crime he would not commit, no debauchery he would not set up, no plague he would not send, no heart he would not break, no life he would not take, no soul he would not destroy. He comes as a thief in the night; he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing” (Messages of the First Presidency, comp. James R. Clark, 6 vols., Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1965–75, 6:179).

Satan is the world’s master in the use of flattery, and he knows the great power of speech (see Jacob 7:4). He has always been one of the great forces of the world.

An example of this is the following. I ran into a blog posting from a young LDS man that explained his confusion and then justification for believing in something that came from a demon. What occurred was this as far as I could interpret from what he was saying. He had gotten into the book “The Secret” and found principles therein which he liked and wanted to utilize in his life to gain financial and personal success. Somewhere on his journey he researched and read more on the concept he had liked called The Law of Attraction. He read more books on the subject and realized that in these books author’s were saying that all of their information was obtained by the process of channeling. Channeling is when a person’s, mind or body is taken over by a spirit entity either by full possession of the person’s body or merely a voice they hear in their mind. This process is the process by which many of the books in the occult are written. Once the man realized that books that were channeled by a spirit were teaching the same Law of Attraction he began to ponder. In his writings the details are not fully clear, but he stated that he knew there were 1/3 of the hosts of heaven that were cast out and that they were demons. He was trying to understand why a demon would give such a wonderful truth to mankind, he even pondered if maybe some of these spirits that followed Lucifer were even changing their minds or at least wanting to help people. He could not quite figure out Why a demon would teach such a great truth, but in conclusion decided that it did not matter where he got his data even it was from a demon as long as it was truth. Here we see someone drinking from a bitter fountain even knowing that the fountain was from a demon. The “truth” he had discovered was so important to him that he was willing to learn it from a demon. We are told that Lucifer and his followers can do no good. So how is it that this demon could be teaching good? The answer is they are not. They are teaching the counterfeit of the truth. They are teaching a lie cleverly cloaked to appear as truth.

Bjarne Christensen, “The Precarious Age of Aquarius,” New Era, Nov 1972, 31

“Remember, nothing Satan does is good, although he does a lot of things that look good.”

The principles that are taught in this world’s accepted spirituality is Lucifer’s counterfeit plan. The teachings therein are only taught to misguide.

Dieter F. Uchtdorf, “The Way of the Disciple,” Ensign, May 2009, 75–78

The Way of the World

“People run from one new idea to the next, hoping to find something that will answer the burning questions of their souls. They attend seminars and buy books, CDs, and other products. They get caught up in the excitement of looking for something new. But inevitably, the flame of each new theory fades, only to be replaced by another “new and improved” solution that promises to do what the others before could not.”

“It’s not that these worldly options don’t contain elements of truth—many of them do. Nevertheless, they all fall short of the lasting change we seek in our lives. After the excitement wears off, the hollowness remains as we look for the next new idea to unlock the secrets of happiness.”

“In contrast, the gospel of Jesus Christ has the answers to all of our problems. The gospel is not a secret. It is not complicated or hidden. It can unlock the door to true happiness. It is not someone’s theory or proposition. It does not come from man at all. It springs from the pure and everlasting waters of the Creator of the universe, who knows truths we cannot even begin to comprehend. And with that knowledge, He has given us the gospel—a divine gift, the ultimate formula for happiness and success.”

Moses 1: 10

10 And it came to pass that it was for the space of many hours before Moses did again receive his natural strength like unto man; and he said unto himself: Now, for this cause I know that man is nothing, which thing I never had supposed.

Mosiah 4:5

5 For behold, if the knowledge of the goodness of God at this time has awakened you to a sense of your nothingness, and your worthless and fallen state—

Lucifer can appear as an angel of light, so bright and beautiful that even the elect might be fooled. We have been warned in the last days many will come in Christ name.

Matthew 24:24

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Copyright 2009

Comments

10 Responses to “Lucifer appearing as an Angel of Light: Bitter Fountains Tasting Sweet”
  1. jim kaine says:

    we are not warned enough or do we take serious enough satan and his gang or
    the powers they hold. They are real there is billions of them around and they
    work especially hard on latter day saints who are heading towards eternal life.If we keep the spirit of the lord in we will keep the spirit of the devil out.

  2. Natalie says:

    Hi there, I am a member living in New Zealand, I have read some stuff by Cleon W Skousen, and earlier this year I bought his entire works. After reading some of his political works I have found myself becoming very much involved in studying the principles of freedom including the opposing veiw. I’ve studied communism, socialism, eugenics and a variety of different subjects. I shared some of my study with fellow church members and to make a long story short, I was told (by my Bishop) that I should not go down the path I am going and that I am being deceived by satan. My stake president has told me that he doesn’t really like Skousen because he was part of a faculty who apostatized the church. I don’t believe this to be true, but I have been told by the bishop until I stop studying what I am studying, (which is everything from history, the monetary system to talks from Ezra Taft Benson), that I can expect to not be called to any calling. Could Skousen be my so called angel of light? I don’t believe this but as my bishop put it, who am going to believe, my bishop or my own personal revelation! I love my bishop, but when he says things like i don’t need to study from past prophets, that I should concentrate on our living prophet only, it is way to confusing as all the prophets in all the scriptures are past prophets. Thanks. Nat :)

  3. Brian Mecham says:

    Nat, thanks for sharing your story.

    Studying the works of W. Cleon Skousen and the prophets who have also taught the truth about communism, socialism, etc. is not going to lead you down the wrong path. It’s important to understand those truths.

    I was at Skousen’s funeral, and you know who else was there? President Thomas S. Monson, who had a lot of great things to say about Skousen and also told us that he (Skousen) never went astray.

    Skousen, or the teachings of Skousen, are definitely not an false “angel of light”.

    We should definitely put focus on what the living prophets are teaching us, but that doesn’t mean the words of dead prophets aren’t important… that makes no sense at all, especially considering the emphasis the Church places on the scriptures and Joseph Smith… and why, each year, do we study in Church from a manual called “The Teachings of the Prophet _________”. We’re always studying the words of past prophets in church.

    Besides telling you that I believe you are on the right path, I also realize the importance of the stewardship and responsibility of Bishops and Stake Presidents and the importance of following their counsel… That’s a tough, unfortunate situation you are in… you should definitely pray about this, perhaps talk to your bishop and Stake President again, and possibly further up to your area representative and so on… Perhaps you could make your argument based on principles, rather than personalities (Skousen).. and discuss whether they honestly believe the ideas and principles you believe are false.

    Check out LatterdayConservative.com for many teachings from all the prophets on the subjects you’ve been studying.

  4. dirk edwards says:

    Natalie,read your remarks and had to comment.I have with great pain
    and discouragement tried and tried to convince people with in the church and others about all the secret combination/gadiatan robbers that you have read about.Dont cast your pearls before swine.Only talk to people who sence that something is wrong and cant quite figure it all out.Your on the right track.The holy ghost will confirm what you have read.Read:the book of mormon and the constitution by verland anderson,that will give you all the info you need to make a good rebutle.Than they will realy get after you (ha ha)

  5. Brian Mecham says:

    As a followup to Natalie and anyone else who happens to read these comments… After reviewing a recording of President Monson speaking at W. Cleon Skousen’s funeral, and considering the many recent news articles from detractors mischaracterizing Skousen, I have decided to write an Open Letter to those detractors (and the Mormon detractors)… defending the character and teachings of the great modern-day Founding Father, W. Cleon Skousen. Just look at what President Monson and the First Presidency had to say about him, it’s wonderful… (and I’m sick of all the lies being spread.)

    An Open Letter to Latter-day Saint Detractors of W. Cleon Skousen and His Works

  6. JoeSwiss says:

    To Nat:

    Study away! Much better than watching TV, reading novels (I mean, that aren’t uplifting, or at least 100 years old), or otherwise wasting time. (Does your bishop watch TV?) What’s worse?

    Imagine you’re Katy Abrams, honest, law-abiding citizen, Aug 2009, and you get invited on a national news show because of a public comment you had made to a famous politician. You get a question about “smart socialism” from the slimeball Laurence O’Donnell. (around minute 5)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT9Xtgbg3yc

    Poor Katy was at a loss, while O’Donnell had an unfair advantage. What would your answer have beeen in that situation? Wouldn’t you have better answers if you knew in advance about the political views of potential socialists or communists you might meet?

    We need informed, prepared citizens (and members). About both sides of issues.

    H Verlan Anderson, BYU professor and lover of all things Constitutional and liberty, also got strange reactions from fellow members when questioned about the implications their political or cultural beliefs.

    http://www.ldsfreedomportal.net/ — Moral Basis

  7. Liezel Lynn says:

    I am really surprised to hear that there are people that think that Cleon and what he teaches is and was bad. I consider Cleon to be the best of the best. It is because of him that I understand the things that I do. His teachings are in line with the principles of the gospel. I had the opportunity to meet him on a couple of occasions in my life. I have looked up to Cleon all my life.

    My father also worked for him for three years when he was the Chief of Police in Salt Lake City. My dad said he was really great to work for. That he didn’t put up with the ‘Blue Line’ that occurs within police department’s. He was sad when he left the department.

    The gospel of Jesus Christ is about understanding the principles of freedom. Cleon’s works are also about understanding the principles of freedom. For those who mock him or call him evil haven’t read his works, don’t understand the principles of freedom themselves because they have been deceived or are in service of Lucifer.

  8. Jason says:

    Natalie, if you situation has not improved, and I suspect it has not, then here is what you might do. Accusing you of going down the wrong path is a pretty lofty accusation. That is not a small thing. I would suggest that you go to your bishop and ask him to show you exactly where you are misled, and that he do it in writing so there is no mistake, and have them back it up with the canon and modern prophets. You could ask the same of your stake president. You can then also ask them to interpret for you Ether 8 and D&C 123, among others, against you. You will find they are unable respond to you. At that point, they will likely tell you it is not what you say, but how you say it. You will kindly thank them for pointing that out, and commit to improve in the future, but then gently remind them that is not what they said. When they cannot answer you, you will kindly suggest that they clear your name in the ward and the stake where you live. That act of clearing your name might include telling the entire high council they were mistaken, and the ward also, including leaders and the bishopric who were “warned” you were a “bad apple”, when you actually were not. They need to do this because their behavior is a form of administrative gossip — gossip of the worst kind, since it comes from the trusted leadership, and your good name and faithfulness has been questioned. If they do not agree to any of this, and I suspect they will not, then stay the course and the Lord will start shaking things out — but you need to do something or you cannot be justified. Keep in mind these brethren are your fellow saints, and they need your strength as well, so as you do this be careful not to get personal or question their leadership. Doing what is right is never easy, but there are no doubt others in the ward who are silently listening to you and who need to hear what you say. That is a tough row to hoe, and I know this because I am in the same position myself and have been for 6 years. The ice is only now beginning to thaw. Stay the course. God bless you for your faithfulness and desires to do what is right.

  9. Nathaniel Womble says:

    Hello Natalie,

    I am an African American living in the U.S., I know the pain that you are feeling because for more than 20 years I have had difficulties, though not major ones, with Bishop’s. I shared a Pamphlet that President Ezra Taft Benson wrote, entitled, “The Constitution a Heavenly Banner,” with my Bishop years ago and he told me that “President Benson did not mean that.”

    You need to face the fact that many people in the church are communist. Some by choice, and others unknowingly because they have been breaded under the banner of socialism.
    I was stunned at the negative comments I received from many members. I have been hauled into the Bishop’s Office, more than once, to answer bogus claims that I was “Preaching false doctrine.”

    I know Skousen personally. And any person who says that he is an apostate is a liar.

    You should continue to sustain your Bishop. This is what the Lord requires of us, but not to worship him. The best way to sustain our leader’s is by doing what is right.

    As you continue your study, you will find that where you are is a lonely place. In order to survive, you must do what is right, seek the Lord’s help, and by all means, attend the Temple, if it is possible, on a regular basis. The Spirit will sustain you in your quest to know the truth of how to “Build the kingdom of God.” You will come to know your role as you continue to study. Don’t trouble yourself with trying to make people accept what you are studying. No doubt those men are good men, and desire to do what’s right, but those who are inspired to embark on your study journey have been called to this work.

    Take a deep breath. Greet your leader’s with kindness, but never abandon what you learn to be true by the power of the Holy Ghost.

    Finally, you need to know that the Church has a three–fold mission, to preach the gospel, perfect the Saints and redeem the dead. In essence, it provides the ordinances necessary for salvation. It does not concern itself with the political aspect of the kingdom of God. It provides us with power from on high to be able to implement the doctrines pertaining to the kingdom of God.

    In 3 Nephi Chapter 11, starting with verse 31 the Lord outlines His doctrine. There are many people who think and teach that this is all that we are suppose to teach. But in Doctrine and Covenants 88, beginning with verse 77 the Lord commands that we should “teach one another the doctrine of the kingdom.” A close comparison between these two passages will show that the doctrines are as different as night and day.

    Keep studying, the Lord will reveal to you how to share the information through scripture, but even then, some people may not accept it. Thanks for sharing this with me. If you like, you can email us from time to time when you are feeling alone and out cast.:)

  10. pleasantgirl says:

    In response to the situation that Natalie is in I would like to wish her well. It is my understanding that Bro. Skousen (or maybe it was Pres. Benson) noted that only 3-5 families in any given ward would be involved in the freedom fight. Clearly her bishop is not one of them, bue this is not to say that he isn’t a good and righteous man. It is possibly and imperative to respect him, even if you disagree with him. If I were Natalie I would continue my studies on my own, as the Spirit directs me, and keep my mouth shut around those who don’t see things the same. If she is anything like me, I would almost rather lose my right hand than stop studying principles of freedom. If you don’t have a calling right now, then use that time to study!(jk) Hang in there Natalie. The Lord needs those who are studying these principles and the time will come, I believe, that your knowledge will be needed. We live in a world where MOST have been indoctrinated with socialistic views. It is very hard for them to understand where we are coming from because they simply don’t know. Most are not willing to believe that much of what they have been taught has been deception. There are A LOT of rumors out there about Skousen. But know that the heavens endorse his work, even if the world scoffs. Keep the faith!

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